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Sunday, March 02, 2008

SNP Webcamp - afternoon session

First session:
* I went to [2] How Does Opening the Social Web Affect Society, Culture and Business; What Are the Rights of Users on the Social Web?

- Portable identities - do we want them? What's the benefit for businesses?
- The permanence/immanence of information
- different facets - not different identities
- who is going to decide what and when to disclose?
- data referring to relationships - who decides on them?- a relationship has two ends!
- there's no such things as one single central core identity - identity negotiated continuously
- Niall Larkin: our identity is socially assigned - socially negotiated
- any identity tag could do - passport assigned to you by the government.

For the second session, I have chosen:

* [3] Patternizing the "Teaching people to phish" anti-pattern.

- Aral Balkan exposed a possible solution - a service with the code in open source and checked daily by a trusted authority
- an explanation on what actually phishing meant - originally
- teaching people to let themselves phished - leisa reichelt's blog post

- you have to be aware that giving access to your email - you're giving access to your root account- "I trust you to behave as me" - I told my story about Shelfari.
- Stephanie:new service- oAuth - you can define the level of access - "you're allowed to do this this and that - and I don't trust you to be me!"

- "are you me? are you another entity"
- Google owning our data - should we be afraid?

Back in the big room.
Aral Balkan introducing the panel discussion:
Stephanie Booth, Dan Brickley, Ben Ward, Paddy Holahan

Summarising the breakout sessions:

Breakout Session 1

* [1] Adoption challenges (for social network portability) and ways for solving them
John Breslin

* [2] How Does Opening the Social Web Affect Society, Culture and Business
- What Are the Rights of Users on the Social Web?
Jan Schmidt - Notes from Session


* [3] Technologies for Social Network Portability and Lessons Learned from Them
o FOAF, Microformats, OpenSocial, SocialGraph API, XMPP, Be Techy and proud
Morten Høybye Frederiksen

Breakout Session 2

* [1] Digesting the Data - What can we do once the data are out there? John Breslin summarising.

* [2] Trust, Identity and Privacy for the Portable Web. Anders Conbers reports back from that one.

* [3] Patternizing the "Teaching people to phish" anti-pattern. Will Knott summarizes discussions in our group - well done!

Tom Morris - on the backchannel IRC asks: who's going to solve the problem? the hackers or the philosophers?
Niall Larkin - you need the different perspectives to find a solution; relationships are even more complicated online.

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At Social Networks Portability Webcamp

Missed the first speaker - Ajit Jaokar - my 6am Aircoach from Dublin made it into Cork at 9:45.
Dan Brickley is talking now, after a bit of fiddling around with the projector connection.
Already spotted Nial Larkin, Steph Booth, Jan Schmidt, Will Knott and Flemming Funch in the audience.

Weird how I had to look around to discover who was twittering from what corner of the room...
Dan showing a cool diagram. The latest fancy name: social graph when we talk about social networks.
SPARQL - a system for querying RDF databases - it is claim-based "who says John is 30?" instead of "How old is John?"

Nice break - time to finally talk face to face with Will Knott and Niall Larkin! It is scary, the taxman actually checks on Linkedin, Facebook and so on...

Stephanie's talk: no pics. No acronyms either ;-)
How do you take with you your profile and your "friends" from one social network to another?

My social network is not flat, it is lumpy! We need to organise our friends in different ways, both explicit and implicit.
Steph mentions "responsible design" as explained in a Leisa Reichelt post. All these services seem to teach us phishing... And the old problem - who owns my data?

What about interpolating friends?
Friendfeed shows recommended people - not enough. Would like to see all the friends of my friends, so that I could pick up the ones I'd like to add!

John Breslin aka Cloud shows funny drawings
instead off PPT slides. So refreshing!

1. What does Data Portability means to me?
2. Data Portability Changing the way you look at the web
3 Value of DP for Vendors?
4. The value of DP for users
5. Next steps for DP

Ben Ward web developer at !Yahoo Europe
admin at microformats.org
In the beginning, there was the URL...
Then came you...then your SN sites ...and your friends...and your claims...

Talk on the backchannel if we should have a standard set of cliparts for things like HCard, XFN:)
Google Social Graph API - I should try that!

Q&A - versioning profiles - should time enter into discussion?
Are we friends forever?
HCards - consolidated identity. Thanks, guys, just created mine here :-)
How do you feel about keeping a history of all your relationships? Hmm...

Uldis Bojar - FOAF for Social Network Portability
Dan Brickley already said everything that was to be said..
Just a few words about FOAF and SIOC

Note: decided to publish this draft "as-it-is" before I mess something up! It happened too frequently lately - maybe I'm just too tired!

Anders Conbere - crash course on XMPP
Twitter, Jabber, GTalk use this...
The presentation is here says @johnbreslin on Twitter.
Presentations coming soon here!
Very interesting talk on what you could do with XMPP...

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